Just how dumb is Quinney going on about anonymous complaints when it was clear that was not the case - merely that the names had been redacted for the public session. And Abrahamson - blaming the blog(s)? Really? This reformed blogger is worse than a reformed smoker. How long before he blames them for hair loss and erectile dysfunction?
Release the documents used at this Open Public Meeting.Open Session Meeting RecordsThe Open Meeting Law requires public bodies to create and approve minutes in a timely manner. The law requires that existing minutes be made available to the public within 10 days upon request, whether they have been approved or remain in draft form. Materials or other exhibits used by the public body in an open meeting must also be made available to the public within 10 days upon request. There are two exemptions to the open session records disclosure requirement: 1) materials (other than those that were created by members of the public body for the purpose of the evaluation) used in a performance evaluation of an individual bearing on his professional competence, and 2) materials (other than any resume submitted by an applicant, which is subject to disclosure) used in deliberations about employment or appointment of individuals, including applications and supporting materials. Documents created by members of the public body for the purpose of performing an evaluation are subject to disclosure. This applies to both individual evaluations and evaluation compilations, provided the documents were created by members of the public body for the purpose of the evaluation. (http://www.mass.gov/ago/docs/government/oml/oml-guide.pdf(p13))
For the record . . . they only have to respond/acknowledge your request for records within ten days. The delivery of your requested records can take forever. It was a law created by lawmakers hiding their actions.In regards to the Southbridge Public Schools, it usually takes a request to the Secretary of State's office to force them to comply. This is the "transparency" gang's continuous efforts to hide their actions from the public.
ya..and months and months and thousands of $$$ - to get a completely redacted copy - everything is supersecret...and names (and phrases) are redacted to protect the innocent...eh.. guilty....
Who cares, other than you, Mike? You've been looking for the smoking gun for years and haven't even come up with a match for the smoke. Time to move along.
So, I suppose 30 days from the appointment of the independent investigator, the search for yet another new superintendent will commence? Between the school system being focused on non English speaking and special ed students, and the rotating door of administrators and teachers, I just don't see how a regular student stands a chance in this town!!! Sickening.
Only the children of certain school committee members stand a chance - a real good chance!
Dear Hopeless - remember? - we don't do searches in this Town - we do 'appointments' - and 30 days gives Buzz plenty of time to find another Springfielder to bring in - but it will also be interesting that if Ms Gardner goes, so goes Ms Stanton (the newly crowned/created - Asst Superintendant)??? It is my understanding they are married.
I must say that I find Erin Quinney the worst school committee member in decades. She is rude, arrogant, and consistently demonstrates her lack of intelligence. Tuesday evening's meeting truly highlighted these character flaws. Mrs. Quinney does more damage to the special education program with her constant droning on about the support group. There are many groups supporting students in our schools. We don't need a monthly update about every little fundraising event or meeting. There are far bigger issues within our schools. Mrs. Quinney should spend her time addressing ALL the issues, not just special education.As a previous blog poster noted, "What are they doing for the average student?" It is very obvious that Mrs. Quinney's child/children are part of this group. However, a school committee member is elected to represent ALL the children.
I would love to know how many school choicers there are this year and how much it's costing the town?
Wouldn't that # be 'public record' - as in it being available in Town Hall??? You could ask @ a TC meeting- but I bet you would be referred to SC - and would you trust the answer (if you got one). I would think that the School Finance Director - temp, acting or otherwise - should have that # available at all times and report that figure @ meetings when discussing $$ spent, to be spent, and thinking about spending! But he doesn't seem to be very savvy about his duties - and his reporting skills are lacking.
My child is in preK at Eastford Road and a flyer came home and in big print it talked about a pumpkin painting party! My 4 year old was so excited...until I read the small print "SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS ONLY"!!! What is that crap? Pffft, then send something home asking me to buy a candle from Spedpac? No thanks
How rude! and hurtful as well....sooner or later the none kids are gonna fiqure out that the 'SPED' kids get special treament...because they do (and I'm not saying they should not get the help they need - but GOOD GOD - but are the majority of students SPED?????
Sped UpMaybe you need to learn to read, no where on there did it say "SPECIAL EDUCATION STUDENTS ONLY"!!! It said "This event is for our Special Education Students and their families." Did you go??? I did, there were general education children there... I for one am glad that someone is finally doing events gear for the special education students and their families. SPED UP TOOHow rude of you to say :How rude! and hurtful as well... Special Ed students don't get special treatment, they get IEP's and believe me if you are not a parent of a child with a disability you have not one ounce of knowledge what we have to go through with this school district... Do you really think they willing hand out services??? Try again, parents have to FIGHT with the district, get advocates (which is cheaper then a lawyer), sometime we need lawyers, we have to file against the district with DESE and in some cases actually go to court... So before you ignorant people shoot your venom at special children, their parents and those like the SpedPAC who think of our children. Walk a mile in our shoes, You don't like the "SPECIAL TREATMENT" our children are entitled to? It is called "FREE AND APPROPRIATE EDUCATION" they have every right to have exactly what typical children are entitled to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individuals_with_Disabilities_Education_Act .
They have a right to about $10,000 worth of education. That's about what the taxpayers pay to educate each child in the state. Anything above that means you're robbing Peter to pay Paul. If you need anything above that, you should make up the difference instead of asking your neighbors to.
It is called "FREE AND APPROPRIATE EDUCATION". Public schools are responsible for children with disabilities from age 3 to age 22.. And if you Neanderthals don't like it I suggest you write your law makers or start a petition to go back to the "stone age". Like I said before "walk a mile in our shoes" and try to get services. And some of us do pay for "ANYTHING ABOVE" because if you think what our kids get in school enough, think again. So continue your hate and keep attacking us and our children, this mentally just shows what backwards, prehistoric and ignorant you people in this town really are. "Maybe you can run for Town Council and then get a ordinance passed to outlaw families with disabled children from living here." PS get your checkbook ready I have every intention on sending my child to another school 100K plus tuition.. Like I said before "DON'T LIKE IT START A PETITION TO GO BACK TO THE STONE AGE"...
Its not hate its economics. There's only so much money to go around. Walk a mile in my shoes. My kid can't take the AP classes she wants because ther's no money for AP classes. Why do you feel entitled to tell the taxpayers we have to pay 100k to educate your child when most of our kids cant even get the basics?
Pure and simple; It's the LAW, don't like fight to change it. Hey remember this, even if our kids go to Trinity or any other private school, you pay for their Special Education services whine bag... And for your information, I own multiple properties in this town, so I pay too... "FREE AND APPROPRIATE EDUCATION" you got to love it, you can be low income or you can be part of the 1% and you still don't have to pay... PS it not just the State Law it is Federal too..
Appropriate education would = daycare for the 3-22 year old who aren't potty trained and already receive ssi, and will do just that for the rest of their lives. good luck getting your kid placed out of district you seem about as capable of that as your child would be.
appropriately wasted So you think children with disabilities should not be in school? Because it equals daycare. Don't assume children with disabilities aren't potty trained and are receiving ssi. A child's ability collect ssi is based on their parents income, as for sending my child to another school why not obviously ignorant people such as yourself and other who love to attack children who can't defend themselves and their parents. Then pay for them to go elsewhere. Like I said I own multiple properties in this town and pay my taxes. I have been paying for plenty general education students who's parent have had with this school district and want better. So fair is fair."Appropriately wasted" seems fitting for adult that could speak so ill of any child with a disability.
It's not just the emphasis on SPED students. What kind of example is being set for ESL students in a town with a councilor who can't express himself in English?
The most amazing thing to me about the executive session was the incredulity feigned by certain members of the school committee. Those of us in the system are amply familiar with Ms. Gardner's tendency to bully subordinates as well as to dissemble when confronted with the facts.
ahh... feigned incredulity by those that bully themselves! You are correct -No Secret - Ms Garner's bullying was brought up (and ignored) before - right from the beginning of her entrance into Southbridge Public Schools - ie - the 'I won't stab you in the back, because I stab from....'; and her bullying has been mentioned in several lawsuits - but she learned from the best - Buzz; shame that the SC bullies don't see it?!?!? Guess I'm not up on my definition of 'bullying' - no wonder the kids have such a hard time w/it!
Well, well, well...The Bobbleheads thought they were so smart and above it all when they decided to hire Gardner as the Superintendent rather than the Interim Superintendent.That move is biting you girls in the butts. Gardner may not be the brightest bulb on the Christmas Tree but she sure has good personal advisers. My favorites of this week's Nightmare on Elm Street:Quinney not understanding what redacted meansAbrahamson blaming this all on "Blog Mentality"Donovan once again holding back her tears
Does anybody know if tonight's joint TC/SC meeting will be televised?
As of 2:05PM - when I called the 'cable access' line @ Town Hall - Stacy told me she wasn't sure - they were still 'discussing' it..hey, they have till 7PM to figure it out!..I believe the equipment is there..probably an issue w/rounding up 'volunteers' to spend another exciting nite behind the camera...
I have to wonder why this meeting wasn't scheduled for the council chambers in the first place.
Look at the time stamp on the agenda for this meeting. It was filed with the town clerk on Oct. 23. There is absolutely no legitimate reason for this meeting not to be televised. If the reason was to allow people to look over surplus computer equipment (item 11) they've had a whole week to do that. If this meeting is not broadcast it will be further evidence that there is a growing tendency on the part of those in power to hide their actions from the public - period.
I believe Mrs. Quinney''s brain is lacking a dose of oxygen !!!
Another secret squirrel meeting by the "transparency" gang.Guess the town council has caught that "transparency" bug2 asprins and a couple million more dollars should fix this latest disaster.
If it is not broadcast live then the Cable Access Director should join the outgoing administration. They have all the equipment that they need to broadcast live from the school. That is why we spent all the money over there for the TV Studio.
I see what you did there, "Ignorance", but semantics aside...the flyer clearly excluded general ed students so why would I go?Also, nowhere did I say I don't know what it is like to have a child with a disorder. That's right, I said disorder, because I refuse to refer to my other child as being "disabled". I won't debate whose child has it tougher, I won't pretend to know what school is like for your child, because they're all different. Just know that for my older child it is an absolute struggle!!! That being said, I know my child will be successful because I hold him to the same standards as his classmates. It may take longer, and it may not be easy, but it is worth it. I do not want accommodations for him or reduced workload because that only sets him up to fail in the future when he becomes overwhelmed.It is 100% WRONG that an above commenters student cannot take AP courses because budget doesn't allow for it! That is not something anyone should have to "fight" for.
Don't assume I don't hold my child no standards or that other parents with a child with a disability don't hold their child to standards. I went to the pumpkin painting party and there were general ed children sitting there with parents and playing with the special ed children. Same as when the spedpac had a event at the beginning of the year, general ed children and special ed children. They gear the events towards the special ed kids, but they never said to any general ed child that came to either event "Oh sorry your not special ed, please leave". You make a dig at the spedpac for sending home flyers asking to help fund raise, do you do the same for the pta? The spedpac flyers clearly stated "help the spedpac - help our special ed students and classes" and that money raised under each school seller id would go to that school only. So shame on them for trying to help out the school district and the tax payers with raising extra funds to use for whatever the schools needed and raise funds for their group so that they can do more event for the special children and hold workshop for us the parents (which they can ask the school district foot that bill).. WHAT ASSHOLES!!!! You don't want your child labeled that's fine, but some of the children need that label and the protection of a IEP. So shame on those parent's for allowing a label? and shame on them for having their child protected by an IEP. As far as the AP courses not my problem, my oldest had them when they were in school, but when they were in elementary and was in advanced classes, their class was last to have those extra advance classes for a long time. So you or anyone else has a issue with their child not being challenged, not receiving AP classes, I would suggest go a school committee meeting and demand answers it's your right. Go to the financial managers office and ask for a copy of the budget and see where they spending money, that's your right also. And like parents with a disabled child should have to fight their kids? Because that is exactly what they have to do, do you or anyone else really think this district says "oh, here is everything your child need"? Then think again, because I personal have filed multiple complaints with the dept of education against this school district only to have the state tell them to provide the services. That is really fair right? I have had to pay a advocate to help fight for services at $500.00 a whack. That is really fair right? So maybe the next time the haters on this blog see a parent with a disabled child, just spit on our kid and tell us to keep our kid home, because our child is stealing your child's education. You don't like it then write your elected officials and demand special ed students removed from the public schools.. Seriously you people just hate to hate and don't care who they are and what their rights are. Because obviously general ed students and their rights are more important then special ed students and their rights. Because no special ed child will amount to anything right?, they are just going to go on state assistance right? because every one in this state on assistance must be special needs. they are only going to ended up on social security right?, because everyone on social security must be special needs. Hater keep on hating
There's no hate here. Just acknowledging economics. The schools spend much more on SPED then they do on AP. Parents with academically talented kids want a piece of the pie too. And, as a taxpayer, I wonder if we have so many SPED kids because we have so many SPED teachers and administrators. And stop calling people that disagree with you or question the priorities of the schools haters. That's childish and just makes people defensive. Stop it.
Lets say that approximately 50 out of every 200 kids per grade are sheltered in place through the diminished and not so gifted program. That means 175 kids per grade are a mix of the remaining regular ed that couldn't cut it or don't have the political ties to get into the not so gifted program or are ELL or part of the growing SWED population in town. Given the demographic statistics of the district is it any surprise the MCAS scores are what they are? Or, That a battle over funding exists and why school choice is a problem here? Southbridge wanted an alternative school so they have become just that. Given the PTA lack of leadership on the SC will it be much of a surprise or for that matter any different when we let the SPEDPAK takes over? Best Southbridge Quote ever - "Education is good if you can afford it."
Spedpak should be held to the same financial constrictions as all other forms of education. I look at it sometimes as reverse discrimination! Yes the circumastances are different but why should the cost per student be different? No student should be unable to get what he/she needs for a suitable education. AP or ddisabled!
All comments subject to moderation. All commenters must use their own name or a screen name. No comments labelled as "Anonymous" will be published. To use your name or a screen name select "Name/URL" from the drop down menu. Insert you name in the "Name" space and leave the "URL" space blank.