By
Luke Brinker from Salon

Investigative journalist
Matt Taibbi returned to Rolling Stone last week with an extensive report on
the case of Alayne Fleischmann, a former JPMorgan Chase diligence manager whose
warnings about high-risk mortgage securities went unheeded in the run-up to the
financial crisis. In the piece, Fleischmann revealed that prior to being laid
off in 2008, she witnessed “massive criminal securities fraud” at the bank, but
the Justice Department ultimately opted for a $13 billion civil settlement with
the bank instead of pursuing criminal charges. On last night’s “All In with
Chris Hayes,” Fleischmann and Taibbi discussed JPMorgan’s conduct, the Justice
Department’s failure to prosecute Wall Street crime, and why the culture of
Wall Street still hasn’t changed.
Despite warning that the bank was rating extremely
high-risk mortgage loans as safe securities for investors, Fleischmann told
Hayes that her superiors’ response was “yelling until they get the answer they
want.”
“They just wanted these pushed through,” she added.
Taibbi emphasized that this kind of behavior wasn’t
confined to JPMorgan.
“This was going on everywhere,” he said. “But what’s
interesting in this case is that for years and years and years, the Justice
Department has been telling us these cases are really hard to prove, we can’t
get any evidence, that’s why we’re not pushing any prosecutions. But now we
have – clearly – proof and evidence, and it’s obvious that they could make a
case if they want to.”
Fleischmann agreed. “That’s the key point with these settlements,”
she said. “They make it look like they’re hard cases but they’re not. … There
are emails. There are reports that were ignored. There are vendor reports that
were ignored. There are emails from diligence managers, from myself. There’s a
letter that sets out exactly who did what and what’s wrong in our diligence
process and how that’s going to cause problems in the security.”
We all know how Wall Street’s decision to ignore such
warnings worked out. So, Hayes asked, has the financial industry been chastened
by the experience?
“I highly doubt it. Because why would they?” Fleischmann
replied. “The things I remember from the time is I couldn’t understand why they
were doing this – when you’re looking at loans when you know they’re going to
go bad, when you’re selling them to investors – and I think part of the problem
is they do know they can bring in their lawyers and their PR and their lobbyists
and make it go away. So as long as they know they can do that, why would they
stop?”
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